Dear Mr Bush!

If it's happening outside of North America and you want to talk about it, this is the place!

Re: Dear Mr Bush!

Postby Anonymizer » Tue May 03, 2011 7:54 am

Surveillance, Not Waterboarding, Led to bin Laden
A lot of conservatives are gleefully insisting that the use of torture was a key part of the overall effort that led to the assassination of Bin Laden. I'm convinced that all the information would have been obtained one way or the other and so this in no way vindicates the immoral bastards who advocate "enhanced interrogation techniques"!
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The torture program established by the CIA appears to have played a minor role, at most, in the intelligence effort that eventually lead to Osama bin Laden’s death. From the evidence released so far, electronic surveillance and old-fashioned intel methods were far more important. Check out the timeline presented by an Obama administration official on Sunday. The trail starts with al-Qaida detainees captured in the early days of the war on terrorism, when the Bush administration authorized the CIA to use abusive methods like waterboarding to extract information. Detainees identified a courier for bin Laden as a “protégé” of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and a “trusted assistant” of former al-Qaida #3 Abu Faraj al-Libbi. And they gave up the courier’s nom de guerre.

LINK: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/surveillance-not-waterboarding-led-to-bin-laden/
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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

Postby Anonymizer » Tue May 03, 2011 8:34 am

Funny Osama Bin Laden Death Tweets
1. I bet Osama Bin Laden accidentally hit the "Add your location" button during his last tweet."
2. R.I.P Osama Bin Laden - World Hide And Go Seek Champion (2001 - 2011)
3. BREAKING NEWS: Donald Trump demands Osama Bin Laden's death certificate.
4. Turns out sending some badass Special Ops guys into Pakistan is a more effective way of killing Bin Laden than invading Iraq.
5. Got Bin Laden AND interrupted Celebrity Apprentice? Win for Obama all around!
6. They should have captured Bin Laden alive and forced him to continually go through airport security for the rest of his life.
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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

Postby Anonymizer » Tue May 03, 2011 11:19 am

Here is a video the same guy made the day before.
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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

Postby Anonymizer » Tue May 03, 2011 11:36 am

James Sel wrote:
surfsteve wrote:Three years to get a copy of a birth certificate but...

Three years wasted trying to make something about nothing.

That comment almost doesn't deserve an answer but I think this video is a good start!
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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

Postby Anonymizer » Wed May 04, 2011 6:57 am

Should Extreme Interrogation Tactics Be Allowed?
Those who were in favor of "enhanced" interrogation are cherry-picking to try to justify the use of torture. They're really stretching the facts way out of shape in a ridiculous attempt to justify their sadistic impulses. Nothing of any value was gained from the use of torture. To claim otherwise is simply dishonest.
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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

Postby Anonymizer » Wed May 04, 2011 7:21 am

Sgt Friday just said he lived in a democracy. Thought that we would agree that the USA is a republic..........with is people concerned about it becoming an empire.
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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

Postby Anonymizer » Wed May 04, 2011 7:38 am

Bush Deserves ZERO Credit For The Killing Of Bin Laden!
The Republican spin machine doing what it does best! :funny:
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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

Postby Anonymizer » Wed May 04, 2011 1:13 pm

So does Obama. This is just a lying contest.
Here is a collection of old articles from 2001 believing or reporting that he already died.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... a_dead.php
Here are some quotes taken only from the first article mentioned in the link. It goes on and on. Most of the articles are easily verifiable. The evidence is overwhelming that he was dying or already dead back in 2001.

Don't any of you remember reading these stories in back 2001?

Peter Bergen: Bin Laden has aged 'enormously'
This is a man who was clearly not well. I mean, as you see from these pictures here, he's really, by December [2001] he's looking pretty terrible.

Pakistan's president says he thinks Osama bin Laden is most likely dead because the suspected terrorist has been unable to get treatment for his kidney disease.

[A Bush administration official] said U.S. intelligence is that bin Laden needs dialysis every three days and "it is fairly obvious that that could be an issue when you are running from place to place, and facing the idea of needing to generate electricity in a mountain hideout." [CNN]

[A Bush administration official] said U.S. intelligence is that bin Laden needs dialysis every three days and "it is fairly obvious that that could be an issue when you are running from place to place, and facing the idea of needing to generate electricity in a mountain hideout." [CNN]
Renal dialysis -- talking about hemodialysis -- is something that really is reserved for patients in end-stage renal failure. That means their kidneys have just completely shut down. The most common cause of something like that would be something like diabetes and hypertension. Once that's happened, if you're separated from your dialysis machine -- and incidentally, dialysis machines require electricity, they're going to require clean water, they're going to require a sterile setting -- infection is a huge risk with that. If you don't have all those things and a functioning dialysis machine, it's unlikely that you'd survive beyond several days or a week at the most. [CNN]

Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead, but former Taliban leader Mullah Omar is alive, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has said. [CNN]

FBI: Bin Laden 'probably' dead

The US Federal Bureau of Investigation's counter-terrorism chief, Dale Watson, says he thinks Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead. [BBC]

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader. "The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said. [FOX News]

Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633

News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago

A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. [Welfare State]

For him to have been killed last week, every one of those reports and more would have to be wrong. Yet I made the mistake of turning on a tv yesterday and it's being treated as if it were a fact. They are totally brainwashing America on every channel!
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Earlier photo vs Dec 7, 2001 tape. Very ill from Kidney Dialysis.
Ok to they gave us some BS excuse for no body but where is his dialysis machine?
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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

Postby Anonymizer » Mon May 09, 2011 9:42 am

Seriously
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Re: Dear Mr Bush!

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